Ron Johnson

By not providing broader liability protection, we are putting our cyber assets at risk.

The devil will be in the details on that one.

If we can facilitate cybersecurity versus dictate it, I think this will work.

I really think businesses want to protect their cyber assets and actually look to government, acknowledging the fact that the government has an awful lot to offer.

A pretty prevalent attitude in that room was that businesses, the private sector, needs to be forced into protecting their cyber assets.

I would urge you to take this approach which was endorsed with strong bipartisan support in both the Senate and House.

I come from a manufacturing background.

I agree with Ms. Harbert. I think the science is far from settled.

So if electricity rates were necessarily to skyrocket, that would put a real--that would really hamper manufacturers' ability to be competitive in the world.

Can you enlighten me about what happened with Malaysia Flight 370 in terms of the passport issue--the stolen passports not being detected right away?

I want to make sure that is a top priority, to take a look at that.

I am not so sure that has been the case with Homeland Security.

I do believe the things that are worth having are worth paying for.

So it should actually be instantaneous, correct?

I was privileged to go last year with Senator McCain to the borders in his State.

I think they sensed our appreciation.

What is the plus? I mean, what do you expect above your costs?

So you would make a recommendation, but DOE in the end has control of the process.

Are those all cost-plus contracts?

So somebody who has a real safety concern and goes through these processes can be assured that the Department of Energy is going to be well aware of somebody raising an issue.

Do you know of any companies that might have the capability that just refuse to do it, or started working on a project like this and just walked away out of sheer frustration and mounting losses?

There would probably be some issues of independence there, wouldn't you agree?

I do not think this is the place to adjudicate an employer-employee dispute.

What I am saying is in business the idea of a safety culture is not new, not by any stretch of the imagination.

OK. Can you point--because, again, we have talked about all these studies. You were going to say, specifically, this is what we have done. I just did not hear any specifics.