Well, thank you. You have made a strong case for defeating ISIS and being fully committed to doing it.

Is that something we are looking to harden our electrical grid against?

I want to cover that and explore that in the secured briefing a little bit.

I think it is a shame that the leader of the Senate will not put a cybersecurity bill on the floor, one that creates true information sharing.

I could not agree more.

How did they go down in relationship to inflation? Did they actually decline?

Mr. Dooley, were rates wildly out of whack in the eighties?

That's one anecdotal example, but isn't basically what you're saying since 2006-2007 there has just been a change in the mix?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

And it's a less efficient mix from the standpoint of being able to move cars around?

I think the threat to our country is just as great as it was pre-9/11 based on what is happening in the world;

I believe the threat is growing. I think it is more grave.

I want to see a clearly articulated goal of destroying ISIS as quickly as possible.

One thing we always have to guard against is always fighting the last war.

Of course, there is always a great desire to get free things from the Federal Government, correct?

I think people need to have skin in the game.

I can understand the Federal role in terms of information sharing and potentially communication devices.

Senator Johnson. So again, war on drugs, but also war on crime.

This program, which has apparently provided about $5.1 billion of free equipment since 1997--it has all been free, correct?

When people get things for free, when you get a lot of money, one of the first things my wife as an IRS agent learned, the first government phrase was, 'Use it or lose it.'

So I know in these last 3 years because of another hearing, we spent $75 billion fighting the war on drugs. We are not conquering it, are we?

I mean, are we making any progress on the war on drugs at all? We have been engaged in this for decades now.

If this was all really caused initially by the drug war, the militarization buildup of this, is in reaction to the drug war, these no-knock raids are about drugs, what is the solution?

Do you know of too many police departments that turn free things down?

I think my point being is if--we are making the decision at the wrong level here.