Howard Griffith actually said...

"Kind of makes it hard for folks to comply when you have got all these overlapping and sometimes confusing regulations, isn't it?"

"My understanding is is that the Obama administration EPA, which was very aggressive on a lot of these issues--a lot of these issues never tried to take the New Source Review rule and implant that into..."

"How much cleaner would the air be if we'd have had reasonable rules in place from the get-go?"

"So, basically, if you're more efficient, that's bad from the viewpoint of those that don't want to----"