Howard Griffith actually said...

And I disagree, just based on the debate that we had when we were doing this a number of years ago in 2013, because we anticipated there wou...

As Ms. DeGette said, there has got to be a balance.

I think sometimes we are talking at cross-purposes because I don't think any of us want to see somebody like NECC coming back.

We have to try to find that balance, because we have situations that, in all fairness, I wasn't aware that one of the solutions to resolve t...