Howard Griffith actually said...

How expensive is it going to be for them, because they are under financial stress already, to set up this good hygiene?

Both of these attacks appear to be Russia linked, which is the most recent showing of cyber threat Russia poses to the United States.

All right, Dr. Dameff, and this is not on my list of questions, but it came up as a part of feeding off of Chairwoman DeGette's questions.

Thank you, Chair DeGette, for holding this hearing, especially considering the recent increase in ransomware attacks across our nation.