Frank Wolf actually said...

And actually, you know, for three old guys, you were fairly exciting insofar as laying out what the opportunities are insofar as really maki...

How well do we honestly do?

I think we are building more prisons, putting more people away when we ought to be putting more money into training and work.

People in prisons are people. They have moms and dads and husbands and wives and kids. And they are not statistics.