Frank Wolf actually said...

I do not think you can put a man in prison for years and not give him work. I just do not think you can.

But I still see articles in the paper about it, though. You still see more at state and local prisons, but it is still----

I think it is an embarrassment that the United States has the largest per capita prison system now in the world.

Well, Mr. Chairman, could we try a pilot?