Michael Cloud actually said...

Yet, what we have seen over the last year is the continued operation of the border being even more a sieve.

Public opinion flows through the Representatives of Congress, and then we tell you what the public are thinking, and then you go and do it.

I will just say I am coming to this conversation, this is my first hearing

Thank you, and welcome. I am new to the committee, so it is great to be here with you.