What was the experience, the actual effect of the 2003 rule on injuries, fatalities, accidents, so forth?

All right. Today, how many trucking fatalities from trucking accidents are there average in America today?

The idea that this rule would apply to them is just absurd.

This idea from the federal bureaucracy that you are going to throw a wet blanket over everybody is just absolutely absurd.

Well, I think that what we have got here is we had a rule in place that had reduced traffic deaths, fatalities, accidents by truckers by 29 percent I think is what Ms. Meng said and that we have done a study with 27 graduate students in…

So actually, these rules could force you into a situation that you would normally thin was unsafe; correct?

Do you think that these rules could force truck drivers to drive in a fatigued situation when they otherwise would not?

But under the rule as proposed, are we not forcing drivers into those hours? Yes, clearly we are. Yes, we are.

Do you think these driver fatigued regulations are really applicable to short haul?

They were going down before that.

If we put this rule in effect, are we going to know that it has had any effect at all?

These people are not suffering from driving fatigue. They are in and out of their trucks all day long.