Ernest F. Hollings: “The amount that is in that homeland security is only $50 million, but that will give us a good start to do the planning.”

Since you mentioned it, the $45 million of the EDA, $40 of that $45 million has already been committed and now EDA is distressed.

I think the greatest need is to have a reasonable debate of parties who put the nature of the science above special interests.

The sooner that we can get that, you know how it is, we'll be gone, and another year will pass and then we'll get into next year's election.

You just can't pave all of America.