Ernest F. Hollings: “Respectfully, I think it is a very easy choice, not a hard choice at all.”

That isn't any politics. I can tell you that right now.

Do you think the Department should be leading efforts to export jobs, for the elimination of American jobs specifically, for sending jobs to, let us say, China?

This has been a political flop, and it's our task to make it a political success.

I only wish you and I both had more influence.