Summer Lee actually said...

Okay, all right. So at go-live, how is the VA going to address these capabilities in Cerner that are not going to meet clinical needs such a...

But it is not included in your $5 billion-- to maintain VistA. So this is we have another cost on top of that to take care of this 40 percen...

I mean, this was a fixed-price contract, VA implemented it with indefinite deliverable, indefinite quality, which really would have shifted ...

I have been on the committee since 9/11, and I have engaged with CBP, Border Patrol, for all of those years.