03/08/2017
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"We have to make sure that money is being spent well, if it is being spent at all."
"I prefer 'tax cheats' to 'tax gaps.' I think a tax gap is a euphemism."
"The tax cheat number Mr. Pocan threw out, in excess of $500 billion a year, is that a fair number?"
"And finally, thank you for acknowledging mistakes--we don't hear enough of that in Washington--and that you are learning from them. That is very encouraging."