If you are in rural Oklahoma, you have not met someone who has worked for the Federal Government before.

If you do not trust me, do not hire me.

Right. But we are back to Ms. Gerton's statement earlier that that is a shift and a focus for OPM to say I am a facilitator to these individuals that are actually doing it rather than a permission, compliance-based group.

You cannot legislate culture, just like you cannot legislate good management practices.

We need to get rid of veterans preference. That is completely wrong.

OPM moves from a compliance organization and mother-may-I, to use your term on that as well, to more of a conversation from the Executive Branch.

a week ago, the Senate went on a short 1-week recess back in our State. It was already scheduled for us to be in our State getting a chance to be able to just interact with people at home. It was a good week to be able to interact with a…

in November of 2017, I spent some time in western Ukraine, sitting down to be able to have a meal and be able to talk to a group of Oklahomans from the 45th Infantry of the Oklahoma National Guard. Some had been in Ukraine since January of…

We have 13,000 people in schools who have been trained just in the last couple of years, just to be able to help with suicide prevention.

So are there needs that we have as far as a change in statute to allow more of that communication to occur at this point?

In Oklahoma, we just had a law passed within our State that has allowed for training for everyone with the school on suicide prevention.

I really believe you can tell a lot about an administration's priorities based on the people that they put in place in each location. And that is true for every administration. There are more than 300 million Americans. Many of them are…

What do you see as the transition for moving hydrogen?

I am particularly proud of my home State of Oklahoma's efforts to grow the hydrogen industry.

Your ethanol is not as fuel efficient as gasoline is.

We have talked about possibilities, but this panel knows extremely well how this conversation about hydrogen being the next thing has been the conversation for about 25 years.

We really need an all-of-the-above approach to give this effort the best chance of success.

It is time that we learn from their experience and their applied lessons to solve transportation and heavy-industry challenges here on earth.

So you are talking about something equivalent, what we knew and talk about all the time, about gasoline being mixed with ethanol.

This has been extremely helpful, being able to walk through all the issues with hydrogen today.

the challenge that we have in this Committee is trying to be able to determine what issues are going to come at us that literally we have to resolve around this dais if we are actually going to move forward on hydrogen.

Government policies--unfortunately sometimes unfairly or unintentionally--prevent technologies that should be winners from floating to the top.

Well, if at some point the regulators are not clear on that, obviously, we have to make clarity on that to be able to provide statutory clarity and to be able to say that you do not have to guess because that could change from…

We do not always agree how to get there, and I think we disagree sometimes on how we environmentally score the impacts of these different technologies.

The future of hydrogen energy is exceptionally important for us to be able to address here.