Sherrod Brown actually said...

We need to think more holistically about how we actually change our culture of debt, consumption, savings, housing policy, the tax code.

Is it the right public policy that to ultimately end up in this place, that low-wage, lifetime workers--

We should consider both angles.

I am for that, but again, I want to make sure we protect those at the low-wage end who, again, have worked in blue-collar jobs their whole l...