That's well put. As you said, we don't have that capability now because both for the requirement you talked about, which is the U.S. origin unobligated uranium, and also to be able to encourage more countries not to go down the road of…

So you have metrics, and the number of kilograms is meeting and maybe exceeding your expectations, because you have metrics in place and you're measuring it? I'm trying to help you here.

I think we have to go to a model where we assume the adversary is in our networks, it's on our machines, and we have to operate anyway.

It does sound like it's a matter of pay, but also because it is exciting work...

In a very tough budget environment, we see significant increases at DOD for cyber defenses, a $200 million increase from last year.

With respect to cyber offense, modern warfare will demand, as you said Senator Portman, the effective use of both cyber and kinetic means.

I think you would all agree that without the scientists and engineers being world-class, we cannot have a world-class program.

We think the labs are a critical element to our ability to prepare for those threats, respond to those threats.

Okay. I guess again what we would like is if you could follow up with this hearing, with your more specific response.

I think if you look at where we said we would be and where we are right now in terms of the targets and the number of kilograms of material removed and the number of buildings secured, that we are quite on track at this point.

We find ourselves in a global security environment today starkly different than ones we've faced in the past.