We are spending more money on service-related contractors in many agencies than we are spending on Federal employees.

Assuming that contractors cost less and that the Federal employees cost more does not help this discussion.

There has not been enough talk about freezing the size of the contracting force and freezing the pay of contractors.

I want to hear, if I could, from the other two Service S&T folks.

I think we balanced that in the budget submittal that's on the Hill.

We can't ignore the threats posed to the technological infrastructure by terrorist groups and other adversaries, like rogue hackers.

We have to have both, and as we're downsizing our military are we becoming too reliant on cyber defense.

They've just been given another year to operate. But with that very dated technology, the gaseous diffusion technology, as opposed to the centrifuge technology, which is very energy inefficient, among other things, that certainly is not…

I believe we should act as a Congress to avoid that.

I would hope that you and your colleagues would continue to promote this effort, including encouraging my former Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to understand the significant issues you've raised today.

I was over in the region last week and heard a lot about it publicly and a lot of discussions about their chemical and biological weapons stockpile.