We need to restore that faith.

You do not spend $4 million at a conference for which there is no accountability.

This cannot be solved with another Webinar. This can't be solved with just one more recommendation.

I have yet to see any terms on that list that would frankly apply to left-leaning groups. They only seem to apply to right-leaning groups.

I encourage Lois Lerner to come in front of the Oversight Committee and answer the questions of the Members of the United States Congress.

this is an agency in crisis

Is it fair to say that the people who run that division would most likely be at one of those 14 conferences held by the Tax Exempt division in the time period?

David Plouffe was on the Sunday shows, and they were discussing the targeting of conservative groups in the tax exempt division of the IRS, and he made the statement that this was not at all political.

this is an agency that is just out of control.

I think what's more telling is at the same time that this agency was targeting individuals for their political beliefs, we have the head of the agency attending the very conference where all this takes place.

I did notice that in this Anaheim conference, there was a session entitled politically savvy training session, 'how to not shoot yourself in the foot.'

It strikes me as a cultural, systemic, character, moral issue.

Not one group on the left has been identified for harassment. Hundreds, for years, have been identified on the right.

According to The Washington Times, the per person spending, today's Washington Times indicates that it was one of the most expensive per individual.

But if it is just we are going to tell you what we think and we don't think it is severe, well, how do we know?

And, therefore, would it be logical to assume that because the cost of production is up, that the cost to the consumer of those products, turkey, pork, and beef, is also going to be increased?

Even the Democrat witness said the Renewable Fuel Standard for cellulosic fuel shouldn't be increased.

So the real question is, from the EPA, why in the heck haven't you done what the law says you can do?

The law says the EPA can waive the Renewable Fuel Standard if 'implementation of a requirement would severely harm the economy of a State, region, or the United States.'

The only groups who were in fact targeted were conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) status; no one else was targeted.

Does the Renewable Fuel Standard increase the cost of producing turkey, Mr. Brandenberger? Absolutely.

It would be nice if we had something objective. It would be nice if you had something objective so we could examine and see whether it makes sense or not.

What is the definition of severe harm? Without a definition, how in the world are we going to make a determination?

To me, that is the $64,000 question.

Well, that is the problem. That is our concern, because if there is no objective definition, if you can't tell me what severe is...