The American people finally are realizing that last year, out of every dollar we spent, we borrowed 41 cents.

The point is that the issue here is that you have States that feel that they are being penalized because other States aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing.

This Clean Air Interstate Rule is significantly more vulnerable to court challenges than legislation and will undoubtedly be held up. Trying to litigate the way to cleaner air only delays progress, often yields little or no result, and…

I would appreciate it if you would share that with my office.

But quite frankly, your State is contributing to my State's non-attainment. And you are causing jobs to flee my State.

the EPA assumption that this unit would be scrubbed by 2011 is completely infeasible and inaccurate.

But I think it is worth it to try and get it done.

I know we wanted to get the ambient air standards taken care of as soon as possible.

I would be interested in knowing how many other States find themselves in the predicament that you do.

I sometimes look at the emphasis that we are placing on greenhouse gas emissions because that is an international problem that we can impact upon.

If Congress passes a climate bill then industry knows with greater certainty what the future holds.

I think we would recommend any budget USEPA promulgates for an emissions sector would not change for at least 10 years, and then only if USEPA demonstrates that additional controls are technically achievable and cost effective.