This could even escalate the issue of terrorism because the criminals know how to make money.

Is the United Nations program any good?

In my opinion, transnational crime and corruption pose an even greater danger to many developing countries in Europe than terrorism.

So what you're seeing is that they're analyzing how this is impacting them, but that the emphasis would be...

It's hostile because the terrorists want to take over the government in a kind of political way.

Do people like Putin understand that these organizations present a threat--the question is, does he have a relationship with them or does he look at them as undermining his leadership and what he wants to achieve in the Russian Federation?

So basically, he realizes that organized crime is not good?

So, I was impressed with, for example in the Ukraine, the coordination that goes on by the State Department through their embassy.

Do you think it would be a good idea if someone sat down and looked at what everyone is doing and look at the resources that they have and how they are coordinating with each other, and trying to really figure out how you could put…

If I was going to go to an OSCE meeting and start talking to some of my colleagues, the effort that we're making in some of those countries through our embassies would probably be a benchmark.

The United States of America has an enormous amount on its plate, and I think we need to get our European friends involved in this too.

I was a big promoter of expansion of NATO to include Bulgaria and Romania, and we made it very clear to those folks that they needed to take action to combat corruption and promote the rule of law.