It's a little hard to understand because we have troops over in Afghanistan, and if the problem is greater today than it was before, what's the reason?

So the Ukraine, from what I understand, is a big source of human trafficking, which they start there and they just line up these folks and then they figure ways to get them into the United States.

The urgent need to confront them is heightened in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks against our country on September 11.

Well, from my perspective looking at the big picture, it seems to me if you're looking at the United States of America, first of all, we need to pump up the resources that we have dealing with these international crime operations that are…

Is part of the problem the fact that more and more resources are going to deal with terrorism?

It's crucial that the U.S. Government have a coordinated approach for combating organized crime and corruption in Europe.

Well, just to emphasize what you said, for example, the sanctions we had against Serbia, what that did is put Milosevich into business.

That probably would come out of the State Department and get the Justice Department involved, get John Ashcroft involved and get Colin Powell involved.

These activities have the potential to bankroll terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda.

We are ignoring the, or not ignoring but not putting as many resources into dealing with the organized crime issue.

Somebody has to be the orchestra leader or someone must call attention to this.

They significantly impeded our efforts to promote stability, security and the rule of law in Europe and elsewhere.