The discussion comes down to the phrase of Senator Thompson, saying that criminal and illegal may not in every situation be exactly the same. For purposes of these hearings, if we were to do justice to what we want to achieve, it needs to be established that they specifically are not the same. It is not sufficient for the Senate to know that there may be some circumstances where illegal does not mean criminal. The point is illegal is not criminal. We seek civil jurisdiction, we seek violations of regulations, and we seek here on the floor to disassociate the two words. I believe, for the record, the Senator from Virginia has done a great deal in allaying my fears, and I think we have separated permanently, irrevocably the two words. For purposes of this investigation they are unrelated, they are unconnected and never the two shall meet again. I think, therefore, this discussion has been helpful.
Robert Torricelli: “The discussion comes down to the phrase of Senator Thompson, saying that criminal and illegal may not in every situation…”
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Discussing the distinction between criminal and illegal during Senate hearings.
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