Patrick McHenry actually said...

Right. So, recruiting based off of race and ethnicity alone is not sufficient for empowered boards.

Research shows that when you have a more diverse array of inputs, you actually get better outcomes.

Even if there is only one woman or one African American on the board, if we actually have a chairperson who goes around the table and elicit...

But you also get into this really--more of the behavioral piece, which is, you have a diverse board on paper, but they are not functionally ...