12/02/2013
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"And I thank each of you for your testimony."
"But those that have options of mining abroad, do you see us losing more and more jobs to quarries, if there are the natural resources in those foreign countries?"
"So, Mr. Stoll, you mentioned about a fine of $140,000-some-odd. You are a larger corporation, so you can afford that, right? Oh, you can't."
"So it is not knowing at what point you are going to get fined for what."