Mark Meadows actually said...

But that's my point. It didn't change the improper payments.

So what changed in 2011 or 2012? And I'll yield back to the chairman, let you answer.

I can't imagine why, if you had nothing to hide, we would be denied access to those types of people.

But when you found out, the last hearing, that you didn't comply with the laws, the Federal records, did you go back to that person and say,...