Mark Meadows actually said...

But that's my point. It didn't change the improper payments.

For me, I have a lot more trust in the nurse or the doctor that cares for me than I do somebody that works here in Washington, D.C.

So what changed in 2011 or 2012? And I'll yield back to the chairman, let you answer.

Would you be willing to commit to the committee today that we can have access to those individuals to ask them questions? Yes or no?