05/24/2017
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"Are you saying that we couldn't sell that facility, Mr. Mathews?"
"I need you to get us accurate numbers on the number of surplus properties and under-utilized properties that are out there."
"This isn't my first rodeo. This is not my first hearing when it comes to surplus."
"Well, based on that, you will never be able to do an exchange ever."