Mark Meadows actually said...

"Performance is all about it, and if we are spending billions of dollars, and we are not getting what we need, then we need to reallocate those funds, okay?"

"I'm willing to really look at that to make sure that you have the resources necessary."

"So how do you do that by getting rid of an evaluation program?"

"We've done quite a bit of criminal justice reform in the State of Georgia, and we've talked about it here in Congress."