Mark Meadows actually said...

"I mean, there are areas where we're doing exactly the same thing, and yet you have different agencies that would both say they can do it better."

"Isn't that what happens, is they provide a similar or relatively similar service, and yet there's not the efficiency of one?"

"This also, reorganization, shouldn't be seen as a way to downsize the Federal employee footprint."

"It's important that we are effective and efficient."