Mark Meadows: “We humbly ask for the consideration of this committee to approve this, so that we can get the payment given to the…”

Meadows agrees with him that the election is over, agrees with him that there needs to be a peaceful transfer of power, that Trump needs to concede.

He doesn’t think there’s anything wrong.

So there's no there there.

What we are looking at is the kind of material -- we are talking about what was flushed down a toilet.