Mark Meadows: “I wish I could say that I was optimistic, that we're going to see real change, but from what I've seen so far this is…”

Meadows said he believed the actions detailed on the Fulton County indictment were part of his official duties and were done at Donald Trump's behest.

Even in January that was given as many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense. That was a direct order from President Trump.

Things might get real, real bad on January 6.

He doesn't want to do anything, Pat.