I proudly put my butt on the line for Barack Obama and would do it again ten out ten times.

It sounds more and more like it could be terrorism.

Right, exactly. It's not a crime scene situation. And so, the crime is in fact stopped and you just kind summed it up nicely.

The idea now is to not set up an initial ...

But Anderson, there is another point here and I like to address. We don't even know that it's three gunmen. I mean, the information that has been out there and reported in the media right now is sparse.

And there's no question. They -- like I said before, they're going to reverse engineer this.

Now that we've established, well, at least up until this point, a semi-secure crime scene. I know we still have some explosive devices potentially on the scene, but now it's motive, motive that's important.

Yes, it did surprise me, especially, in light of the tragic attacks in Paris and the different approach we have now in law enforcement to these types of scenarios as your prior guests just stated.

I think this security is appropriate.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that there is someone in these crowds that definitively wants to either hurt or God forbid kill the pope.

We have to very seriously consider a very significant investment in the federal level at hardening up the soft targets.

I find it extremely hard to believe that the Secret Service was told about this and just let it fly.

We have a serious problem.

There has to be an imminent threat presented, right, because this guy, Hughes, said he feared he could potentially be shot down although he said he didn't think anybody would.

It's the fact that he could potentially inspire others and plant a seed in someone who has really malicious intentions.

We need the good cops to stand up and say listen, this was a really bad awful shooting. It looks indefensible on the tape.

There is no shooting someone trying to escape. You know, Anderson, it doesn't seem to me to be any legal, ethical, or moral reason from looking at that video for those shots to have been fired at all.

I think - I don't think he should lose his job. I think he's going to get a hefty suspension.

Areva has no idea what she's talking about and I don't mean to be rude, but you'd be dead in five minutes in the street.

I think we have to look at countries we traditionally consider safe. You know, France, South Korea.

There's always going to be a balance here between access and security. And those securities never going to be absolute.

Always, Anderson. The only way to go home safely is to assume a worst case scenario every time.

Well, they're doing it because they feel like they don't have a voice. It's also the reason a lot of them are turning their back on Mayor de Blasio.

I think it was the mayor's use of broad strokes against the police department rather than speaking in isolated terms and in proactive terms things they can do to convict policing.

You know, and the Mayor never really -- forget about apologizing even acknowledge his even minor role maybe in creating environment that may have led to this.