Denis McDonough: “We just need to get better at hiring than we are. Period.”

I have seen this personally myself, including with a Gold Star mom and a Gold Star wife.

We want to make sure that we compete for the veterans' care, and we can compete on quality.

we should be able to watch this develop and be in a position to make sure that we have the people and the space to take care of those vets.

We think there would be a real impact on both.