Fred Upton: “Defrauding anyone of their hard earned savings is despicable.”

This is -- I think, that call -- I think he might have been from South Carolina.

I don`t think we have had so as many folks in that sort of wing of the party elected as we had before, but I think they`re very popular back at home.

Well, he's on the tap lift, the short five, I guess you could call it. I don't think the things that he said back in 2016, maybe 2017 really matter much. He's a MAGA Republican.

It is really sad on an important issue like this.