Fred Upton: “I try to do it. You know, Energy and Commerce, we want you on the committee, Dean.”

Troubled waters, I guess you could say.

Well, he's on the tap lift, the short five, I guess you could call it. I don't think the things that he said back in 2016, maybe 2017 really matter much. He's a MAGA Republican.

It is really sad on an important issue like this.

I think, with all governmental policies, there is a balance of costs and benefits.