Fred Upton: “I just again urge my colleagues to support this good bipartisan bill. I appreciate the kind words always by Mr. Welch. I…”

This is -- I think, that call -- I think he might have been from South Carolina.

At a time when we are seeing the highest rates ever--100,000 folks, man, in 2020--it is so disturbing that the administration seems to be favoring weakening penalties for drug traffickers.

I think, with all governmental policies, there is a balance of costs and benefits.

Troubled waters, I guess you could say.