Fred Upton: “Some governors chose to ignore that guidance, and they actually forced sick nursing home patients back to the nursing…”

It is really sad on an important issue like this.

This is -- I think, that call -- I think he might have been from South Carolina.

Troubled waters, I guess you could say.

Well, he's on the tap lift, the short five, I guess you could call it. I don't think the things that he said back in 2016, maybe 2017 really matter much. He's a MAGA Republican.