Fred Upton: “It has been over 30 years since Congress enacted the Department of Energy Organization Act of 1977.”

Troubled waters, I guess you could say.

He took the Trump playbook and hit a home run as it related to the Trump view.

This is -- I think, that call -- I think he might have been from South Carolina.

Well, he's on the tap lift, the short five, I guess you could call it. I don't think the things that he said back in 2016, maybe 2017 really matter much. He's a MAGA Republican.