Fred Upton: “Over the past decade, we have emerged as the world's leading producer of oil and natural gas.”

This is -- I think, that call -- I think he might have been from South Carolina.

The first would be expanding energy production in the United States. So, of course, one way to do that is through oil and gas, but other ways is through renewable energy.

Troubled waters, I guess you could say.

I think, with all governmental policies, there is a balance of costs and benefits.