China's largest companies are government-owned. So how do you deal with the issue of competitive advantage to companies' commercial sectors when you are dealing with a country, China, where so much of its economy is controlled by the…

The military is the last resort always.

If you are dealing with a country that has controlled companies, then we need to also understand that that needs to cover the type of activities that are being done by the Chinese Government.

It is going to be a case-by-case basis, but we are going to look at all those factors as well.

Millions of Federal workers are at risk today as a result of that attack.

I also think there has got to be a tradeoff with corporate responsibility, and there needs to be protocols which American businesses are prepared to adhere to and not just yield to the unreasonable demands of repressive regimes.

the tool of the Trafficking in Persons Report is maintained as the gold standard

My point is we have seen very little evidence that they have changed their underlying attitude towards prosecution.

You do not invade the privacy of a workforce and call that intelligence gathering for your national security.

Cyber represents a new domain in global affairs likely to be significant in shaping the 21st century as nuclear weapons were in shaping the 20th century.

Well, Senator Gardner, first of all, thank you for your leadership on this subcommittee.

But I would hope that you will use the same sensitivities that we use for military arms as we use for Internet technology so that we are not wrapped up in the view that the Internet is so global that technology development in the United…

Which we do on physical invasion of a NATO ally. That is a clear red line.

It does not appear like we are getting the attention we would like to get on this issue.

Just so I understand, were they foreign nationals that were prosecuted or Cuban nationals that were prosecuted.

That kind of intrusion is just too big to ignore and too disruptive and it is a real concern.

Human rights, I have been told by the leaders in the Obama administration, is one of the Obama administration's top priorities for advancing not just American ideals but our national security because it very much affects the stability of…

I mean, India is a good example. India has been in the same tier for a long time.

How about the others?

Well, somehow in Cuba, we were able to look at some of the documents you made available to us. And there appeared to be a pretty clear indication that Cuba should remain on the tier 3 list, but yet it ended up on tier 2 watch, which seems…

You are dealing with a controlled economy. You are dealing with a communist country in China.

It is important to have those together.

So to me clarity is important here.

I would also make clear, however, that as the President said, words are not enough. We need to make sure that actions are matching and that we have not taken any tools off the table.

You know that American companies today are using their technology to support repressive policies of other countries as a way of gaining entry into the markets of those countries.