Ben Cardin actually said...

"Cybersecurity crosses many committees' jurisdictions here, and crosses many agencies in the Federal Government."

"All I am suggesting is, make it more visible, because, if you do not do it, no other country will."

"So, how far are we away, timewise, from having a policy in NATO that we will feel comfortable with in regards to how cyber fits into the traditional defense posture of NATO?"

"I want to stop you for a moment, because, in your testimony, you come up with a good recommendation that there be voluntary norms of responsible state behavior during peacetime that would be universal..."