11/07/2023
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"A freeze is a freeze. It is going to cause us to make some very painful judgments."
"Well, I agree. We are still in a very, very difficult position on these issues, and there is uncertainty in the marketplace, also, which is not helpful."
"I think that is a pretty direct, honest answer, and I appreciate that."
"I think we all need to understand, as we look for this credible plan to deal with our national debt, that it is the same people who live in municipalities, counties, States, and the Federal Government..."