John Kerry: “How about if we let the two Senators I mentioned proceed. Senator Feingold and I could each take 30 minutes at this…”

The message coming out of this COP is, we are moving away from fossil fuels. We are not turning back. That is the future.

But, we could with battery. We could with-- there's ways to make that work.

The message is, let's find a way to be able to make sure when we fly, we're not leaving emissions that we cannot capture.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.