John Kerry: “In terms of global challenges and U.S. interests, yes.”

But, we could with battery. We could with-- there's ways to make that work.

The message coming out of this COP is, we are moving away from fossil fuels. We are not turning back. That is the future.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.

Well, she is, in regard to, writ large, the energy policy. Sure, she is the primary.