John Kerry: “Yes, to the best of our judgement.”

In terms of global challenges and U.S. interests, yes.

We are not, I have not, President Biden has not, we are not saying to people, you should not fly.

The message coming out of this COP is, we are moving away from fossil fuels. We are not turning back. That is the future.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.