Rand Paul: “I am hopeful, but not overly optimistic, because of the long-term history of 1,000 years that they don't readily adapt…”

It’s a good legal discussion, and we will make those legal points to DOJ in sending the referral over.

We are voting on whether a witness who has received the benefit of a sweeping federal pardon can be ordered by this committee to answer questions and then defy that order without consequence.

I think there's another legal question that the courts may have to decide upon, and that is whether or not a presidential pardon offers you complete immunity.

We shouldn't be giving money to people who lied to us.