Rand Paul actually said...

There has to be a punishment. Like, Dr. Morens, I am still not sure if he's punished.

Basically, in the Federal Records Act, it may well say that it is illegal, but does not say what you do if someone breaks the law.

The deliberations over what is gain of function, what is not, should be public knowledge because they made a mistake.

I cannot think of a record request I will not sign, but we still are having trouble getting these records.