Rand Paul: “I am not very optimistic that we can solve our problems with more spending and more borrowing and more inflation.”

It’s a good legal discussion, and we will make those legal points to DOJ in sending the referral over.

Surely, there needs to be a vote.

The chair directed Anthony Fauci to answer. He refused again. That is what we are voting on today - not his opinions, not his policies, not anything he said from a podium six years ago.

We are voting on whether a witness who has received the benefit of a sweeping federal pardon can be ordered by this committee to answer questions and then defy that order without consequence.