Rand Paul actually said...

You should not hire any new employees, every year you should get smaller.

Private corporations face these kind of problems and when they do, they do not add to their labor costs.

The debts continue to mount. I do not see a whole lot of change.

But here's my point. When you get to the pensions being a problem, and you say, most of this is generated by pensions and past pensions, and...