09/28/2021
https://www.msnbc.com...
"We need to not just preach to our allies, we need to do the same."
"[Trump’s] got some pretty rabid isolationists over at DoD—you could argue the vice president is in that group."
"That is why some of us need to argue a different point of view."
"The strongest deterrence is denying an adversary’s objectives through military means."